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The Casino Answer Man

29 July 1999

I usually play craps in Indiana, but while I was in the Joliet area in Illinois recently I stopped at the Empress. I know you say the proposition bets are bad bets, but I love the excitement of the long shots. I noticed a couple of bets there that I have never seen before: the All Day 2 and the All Day 12. Can you tell me if these bets are offered at any other casinos? Also, can you please double-check my math? I have the All Day 2 and All Day 12 at a house edge of 14.3 percent, which would make them better bets than the regular 2 and 12, each at 16.7 percent.

The All Day 2 and All Day 12, which are not offered at other area casinos, are place bets on 2 and 12. If you bet All Day 2, you're betting the shooter will roll a 2 before he rolls the next 7; bet All Day 12 and you're wagering a 12 shows up before a 7.

There are six two-dice combinations that total 7. Only one combination totals 2 and one totals 12. That makes the true odds on either bet 6-1. Winning wagers pay only 5-1, leaving a house edge of 14.29 percent. That's considerably higher than house edges on place bets on 4 or 10 (6.67 percent), 5 or 9 (4.0 percent) and 6 or 8 (1.52 percent).

One-roll propositions on 2 or 12 face a house edge of 13.89 percent if the casino pays 30-to-1, or 16.67 percent if the casino pays 30-for-1. If you chase the long shots, you pay for the privilege with big edges to the house.

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John Grochowski

John Grochowski is the best-selling author of The Craps Answer Book, The Slot Machine Answer Book and The Video Poker Answer Book. His weekly column is syndicated to newspapers and Web sites, and he contributes to many of the major magazines and newspapers in the gaming field, including Midwest Gaming and Travel, Slot Manager, Casino Journal, Strictly Slots and Casino Player.

Listen to John Grochowski's "Casino Answer Man" tips Tuesday through Friday at 5:18 p.m. on WLS-AM (890) in Chicago. Look for John Grochowski on Facebook and Twitter @GrochowskiJ.

John Grochowski Websites:

www.casinoanswerman.com

Books by John Grochowski:

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John Grochowski
John Grochowski is the best-selling author of The Craps Answer Book, The Slot Machine Answer Book and The Video Poker Answer Book. His weekly column is syndicated to newspapers and Web sites, and he contributes to many of the major magazines and newspapers in the gaming field, including Midwest Gaming and Travel, Slot Manager, Casino Journal, Strictly Slots and Casino Player.

Listen to John Grochowski's "Casino Answer Man" tips Tuesday through Friday at 5:18 p.m. on WLS-AM (890) in Chicago. Look for John Grochowski on Facebook and Twitter @GrochowskiJ.

John Grochowski Websites:

www.casinoanswerman.com

Books by John Grochowski:

Winning Tips for Casino Games

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